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Post  JAM on Mon Sep 02 2013, 09:48

Hi All,

Haven't been on here for quite a while.  I had a a fairly big off at the end of May.  Just got the bike MOT'd and in top condition for the summer.  Went for a cheeky blast over the tops, coming down the A640 nr Denshaw and the council had kindly deposited a load of road chippings on the corner.  I hit it at around 50mph and next thing I know sliding down the road on my arse and into a ditch.

The first picture is where I hit the deck and you can see the line the bikes pegs/engine case took.

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Next photos are of where the bike ended up, I finished up in the general area too.

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I managed to hobble away from it, I was pretty banged up but nothing life threatening.

I was only insured 3rd party, so the bike is in the garage, in the same condition.  I've got a legal case now ongoing again the local authority, so hopefully I'll get some money back to fix the bike or replace it.

I've had the hard word from the wife, so will be taking a bike "holiday"  for a least a year.

But I'll be back, hope every one else is ok.

(read the news about Gail - truly upsetting, I had quite a few northern rides out with here a few years ago.)

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Post  Snowcat on Mon Sep 02 2013, 10:12

Looks like you we're pretty lucky there pal, hope you are making a full recovery with no ill effects, bikes can always be replaced, the riders can't. I hope you get a result with your local authority, they need to be held accountable for their actions when things like this happen, oh and good luck with the wife and getting back on the road, remember its scary for them too when you have an off.

Take care pal

Cheers

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Post  Wooster on Mon Sep 02 2013, 10:37

That was a narrow escape mate. Shocked 

Those chippings are a bloody nightmare.
...wasn't there a campaign to get them banned a while back?
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Post  prime on Mon Sep 02 2013, 10:43

good luck against Oldham council im sure they will fight tooth and nail mate. ive always tried to avoid the roads over the tops, they are bad riding roads at the best of times the amount of loose gravel they are covered with.
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Post  billyw on Mon Sep 02 2013, 11:20

Glad that you are OK mate, hope you are not getting too much grief.

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Post  greencat on Mon Sep 02 2013, 11:56

Hi Mate,
Great to see you back on the site, but not good to hear of your off.
I hope you're OK? Must have been quite a scare to go off like that!

I did something similar a while back and I'd be interested to know how your case against the Council goes. What grounds are you using. I looked into it quite a bit and they seem to have things very much in their favour. PM me if you don't want to discuss it here. I hope you fnd a way to get some recompense. They need to consider motorcyclists - I think we're an inconvenience!

Hope your wife's a little calmer now. Must have been a big shock for her too!

ALl the bst,
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Post  Wooster on Mon Sep 02 2013, 12:42

Lack of, or inadequate signage?
Reading around, it seems they might also have a duty of care to sweep up any loose chippings after the surface dressing work has been carried out.

Best of luck with it mate. Cool 
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Post  Rosco on Mon Sep 02 2013, 13:31

Flippin Eck Pete.

That is a scary & sorry site. Glad to hear you managed to 'hobble away' as it could have been much worse.
Hope you're mending well and quickly.

It's just something that should never happen in the first place.
Fingers crossed you can get things put right through the legal action.

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Post  prime on Mon Sep 02 2013, 14:59

a few weeks ago I put a warning up about the cat and fiddle, buxton end, second and third left handers being gravelled up. I saw a road works van at the offending bend a while back and presumed that they were repairing the rd, but last time I was there its worse than it was to start with. the council and road workers don't give a toss about bikes or things with less than four wheels, their view is that it slows us down and is safer.
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Post  Wooster on Mon Sep 02 2013, 15:33

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Post  MrNutt on Mon Sep 02 2013, 22:11

really sorry to hear about the off, really unlucky, but glad you were ok to at least walk away somewhat.

fingers crossed for you with getting on at the council.

good luck with everything

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Post  bobh on Mon Sep 02 2013, 23:14

Ouch, nasty, and I hope you manage to get some compensation.

Interestingly, on our Cotswold run last Saturday, there were several places where "countdown" warning signs for gravel had been placed at 300, 200 and 100 yards, even though in most cases it was just where side roads had been gravelled and there was some that had been dragged out onto the major road that we were on. So maybe some local authorities (in this case Glos) are taking their responsibilities a bit more seriously.

Wooster's link is interesting, and clearly it shows that with the right backup it's possible to pin some blame on the l.a. or its contractors. Though in the case they talk about, you would have thought that the driver might just have noticed the gravel flying around, and heard it rattling in the wheel arches, before getting to the corner where she lost control.

It all reinforces my opinion that drivers ought to have compulsory skidpan training. It seems all they are taught is "if in doubt, slam the brakes on", which of course is the worst possible thing to do in a lot of circumstances. It's not helped by the car manufacturers perpetuating the myth that all their clever electronic TLA's will get you out of trouble no matter what.
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Post  ellie on Tue Sep 03 2013, 03:41

Hope you're on the mend JAM and like everyone says, it's only a bike.

Take care buddy


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Post  mrfrance on Tue Sep 03 2013, 13:25

Sorry to hear about your unfortunate encounter... I hope your case is a strong one and they council pay up. Good luck.
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Post  robertcains on Tue Sep 03 2013, 13:34

All the best JAM, that looked nasty
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Post  mechy69 on Tue Sep 03 2013, 18:45

what he said 
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Post  yamahamad on Tue Sep 03 2013, 21:47

Glad you are ok pete, could have been a whole different outcome,

Hope you get a suitable result from the council.

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Post  MevsyD on Tue Sep 03 2013, 23:29

Wow.... Not in a good way. Glad you are Ok as that could have been a lot worse. Well done for taking photos when you must have been really shaken up, lesson for us all there..
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Post  MevsyD on Tue Sep 03 2013, 23:31

Also, all those posts on the other side of the road with biiig spaces and you had to hit one!
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Post  OhJay on Wed Sep 04 2013, 06:52

Aiieee, not good. Sorry to hear about the off, glad you're OK though.

Keep us informed as to how it goes, what you and the council say and what the outcome is. Fingers crossed for you
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Post  JAM on Fri Feb 14 2014, 10:27

Hi Everyone,

Just an update, My solicitor has just phoned me and advised that the council have offered to settle out of court for £6,000.

Which is 90% of the claim submitted, which I've accepted.

So a bit of a result there I think.

On the downside, I've decided to retire from two wheels for a while. I have a classic Honda CB 650Z that I am going to restore. So will concentrate on that.

I am going to sell my bike as is. Probably put it on ebay. Anyone that saw knows it was immaculate and well looked after before the off.

Anyone that handy will get it back up again I'm sure, or strip it, if required.

When I crashed it had aftermarket plastics on it.

I have all the original plastics. I also have a spare tank, Original exhaust, and starter motor.

When I post it on ebay, I'll send a link here.

I'd rather sell it in one lott, rather than in bits, I haven't got time for messing about.

Feel free to contact me about it.

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Post  mrfrance on Fri Feb 14 2014, 10:45

Glad to hear that you've got the result you (near) expected. Sorry to hear that you're retiring from 2 wheels, although understandable!

What's important is that you are now able to move forward with your life and put this all behind you.

I will speak to a friend about your bike as he and I may be interested in jumping on this for a project.

All the best

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Post  yamahamad on Fri Feb 14 2014, 19:31

Glad to hear the result you got pete.

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Post  Rosco on Fri Feb 14 2014, 22:12

Hi Pete

Good to hear from you.
Sort of sounds like good news - glad to hear you are happy with the outcome.
Better that it had never happened in the first place though.
Hopefully the council won't let that happen to anyone again.
Good luck with the sale and the new project (we want pictures Smile )

Don't be a stranger here and hopefully see you on or at a rideout sometime soon.

Cheers
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Post  Radar on Mon Feb 17 2014, 01:10

Missed this when originally posted and I am glad you finally had a reasonable outcome.

Hope the restoration goes well, would like to follow its progress on here if you can! I remember the old SOHC CB650.

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