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Post  Rampers Thu Apr 26 2012, 13:08

First topic message reminder :

I've just ordered some dog tags with my details on in case of the worst happens and I end up on my backside and in the land of the cookoo, so the emergency services can know about me and tell the wife (or another important person) can be told where I am and why.

What are your thoughts on these and would you splash out £20 for them?
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Post  SteveCat Thu Apr 26 2012, 21:42

Had thought of that, but have the scans stored on my SatNav none the less.
Not expecting the authorities to go through it at a time when I can't give info though.

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Post  Wooster Thu Apr 26 2012, 21:50

Something that springs to mind in regard to Smartphones (and is already available) is an app that detects a life threatening impact and sends an alert.
i.e. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

There are probably others, but that was the first one I found after a two minute search on Google (Android + Impact throws up a lot of news articles.. green smile )
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Post  SteveCat Thu Apr 26 2012, 22:00

I hope it don't call for help if you drop the phone. Shocked

Amazing what can be done these days
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Post  0ldcat Thu Apr 26 2012, 22:10

Anyone ever bought sommat on line ?

Going on from Woosters Reg No . . .

Got a Bank Account ?

Mortgage ?

On Benefits ?

Work ?

NI number ?

NHS no ?

On the Electorial Register ~ Do you get a voting card ?

God forbid you were/are a Civil Servant or are/were in the military !

Are you on line ? You know ? that interwebby thing ?

Sorry to Burst yer bubble . . . but if you think 'they' don't know who you are . . . . . . . . can I have some of what your on ?

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Post  SteveCat Thu Apr 26 2012, 22:29

At the time you need help and cannot speak there is nothing on a database which will quickly identify you at the scene.
Even the registration number may not reliable, you might not be riding your own bike.

Personal items like dog tags, wallets, phones and even the crash card are items the paramedic told us they look for.
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Post  Wooster Thu Apr 26 2012, 22:52

I'd assume that establishing my identity is a low priority given the probable urgency of the medical situation.
Saving my skin (possibly in a bucket) green smile would be priority number 1 I'd think, regardless of who I may be. They can sort that out later.[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Post  kwakkat Fri Apr 27 2012, 21:20

every little help, to save your life or would you like
im dead but my identity safe grumpy
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Post  Wooster Fri Apr 27 2012, 21:56

I doubt knowing my identity would help in the slightest, and a cursory search of my pockets in the eventuality that I was found unconscious, would reveal at least three items with my name on it (and two of those with a photo).

So what benefit are we talking about here?
As I mentioned, I have no allergies that could kill me, so the emergency services just have to run through whatever procedures they see fit, as circumstances dictate.

Informing my family can wait.
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Post  kwakkat Fri Apr 27 2012, 22:02

like you style bugger you if im goimg to help you help me
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Post  Wooster Fri Apr 27 2012, 22:57

You're welcome, honestly it's the least I could do. green smile















...yeah, I have no idea either Smile
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Post  Goxethee Sat Apr 28 2012, 00:33

I think anything that helps paramedics has to be a good thing. My boyfriend's neice is a paramedic & she says they all wish we'd have a tattoo with at least our blood group on it. I carry everything in a clear wallet in my pocket - allergy info (if they give me the wrong anaesthetic I'd stop breathing & they'd think I was dead) & donor card, & also my bike documents, as I've discovered that if you get pulled over & can hand over your documents immediately, they just wave you on, cos they don't want to do the paperwork that they're trying to palm off onto whoever's on the desk at the police station when they give you a producer Very Happy
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Post  Wooster Sat Apr 28 2012, 02:31

iirc pumping the right blood group into you right away isn't a priority, it's getting the blood pressure back up after a traumatic loss, and they can use various substitutes in order to prevent organ failure.

I don't know the specifics, but an ex of mine (now a GP) was a bit upset while she was doing her bit in A&E.
A roadworker (working just outside the Hospital) got crushed between a bus and a generator and was brought in with major pelvic and abdominal injuries.
They were literally squeezing bags of blood/plasma/saline(?) into him to maintain blood pressure, to no avail...the injuries were just too severe.

Now, in those kind of circumstances, I'd say they'd not be too fussed about matching blood types..and go for what generally works for everyone.
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Post  ellie Sat Apr 28 2012, 07:29

Paramedics have absolutely no use for blood groups. They scoop & run. They just canulate & put up fluids.

As I said, A&E crossmatch your blood as soon as you get there and have several units of type specific blood ready in minutes. I've spent years doing it and fetching it lol.

My job after the person was stable/dead was to inform the family and if I couldn't find out their identity, I handed it over to the police.

Our main priority was always life saving, didn't care too much about relatives, that came afterwards.

Allergies are useful as I'm allergic to Latex and would make my condition worse. But most of the severely injured bikers I saw were way past saving anyway, it was sometimes just trying for tryings sake.

One thing I did alot in A&E, with very little thought was cut leathers off with a big pair of tuff cuts lol not realising how much they cost!

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Post  ellie Sat Apr 28 2012, 07:32

Wooster wrote:iirc pumping the right blood group into you right away isn't a priority, it's getting the blood pressure back up after a traumatic loss, and they can use various substitutes in order to prevent organ failure.

I don't know the specifics, but an ex of mine (now a GP) was a bit upset while she was doing her bit in A&E.
A roadworker (working just outside the Hospital) got crushed between a bus and a generator and was brought in with major pelvic and abdominal injuries.
They were literally squeezing bags of blood/plasma/saline(?) into him to maintain blood pressure, to no avail...the injuries were just too severe.

Now, in those kind of circumstances, I'd say they'd not be too fussed about matching blood types..and go for what generally works for everyone.


LOL, death and dying is a daily part of A&E work, you can't afford to get upset by it.

I worked in A&E 15 years and saw some horrific stuff.


90% burns, decapitations, hangings, gun shots, major trauma, dead kids etc etc.
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Post  Snowcat Sat Apr 28 2012, 09:01

ellie wrote:90% burns, decapitations, hangings, gun shots, major trauma, dead kids etc etc.

Is it not a bit late for A & E by then? Wink
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Post  Wooster Sat Apr 28 2012, 09:23

Laughing


p.s. In her defence, A&E was part of the training she never enjoyed, I think being on call wore her down.
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Post  ellie Sat Apr 28 2012, 12:32

Yes lol but they needed verifying they were dead lol.
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Post  ellie Sat Apr 28 2012, 12:39

Wooster wrote: Laughing


p.s. In her defence, A&E was part of the training she never enjoyed, I think being on call wore her down.

Drs are on call during every part of their training, I remember when they started their on-call at 9am on a Friday and finished at 9am on a Monday. They were shattered by then.
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Post  greencat Sat Apr 28 2012, 22:37

Back to the subject of the thread (medical talk makes me all queezy No )...

Just got details on a product that looks pretty good. I will hold all your contact/medical details and doesn't require them to take your helmet off, if the worst happens, or rifle through your clothing and it's not expensive (£10) with £1 going to the Air Ambulance.

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