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Post  Rampers Thu Apr 26 2012, 13:08

I've just ordered some dog tags with my details on in case of the worst happens and I end up on my backside and in the land of the cookoo, so the emergency services can know about me and tell the wife (or another important person) can be told where I am and why.

What are your thoughts on these and would you splash out £20 for them?
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Post  Snowcat Thu Apr 26 2012, 13:24

Always worth while giving paramedics the chance to get your details in the event of you not being ale to.

I was given one of them green spot things that go on your helmet. It alerts emergency services to a contact card in the lining of your helmet so they can contact loved ones if you're unconscious, (once they've removed your helmet)!! Got it on the Bikesafe course.

Was also advised to have an ICE contact (In Case of Emergency) in your mobile. I've stored my wife's mobbly number under a contact named ICE on my phone as again, emergency services are trained to check
Your phone for this.
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Post  Rampers Thu Apr 26 2012, 13:47

Ah I have to use a pin to unlock my phone so if it was ever stolen it would take a while to unlock and give me time to remotely wipe it ( one of the things I was told whilst in the job) so that wouldn't work lol and I'd be paranoid that the card would start smelling or something lol
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Post  SteveCat Thu Apr 26 2012, 14:04

I'd still use the card even with your dog tags, don't cost anything. Think more green dots on helmets can only be a good thing. The more the emergency services come across them, the more prepared they are in case it may be needed.

I don't think the card will smell, but mine has signs of moisture and the ink has run (had thought I was a hot head Very Happy) . It's been in the helmet about a year, must get around to replacing the card. Also have a 'home made' card in my wallet.

Probably your phone will be too much of a challenge, I've been using ICE for about 15 years and it is just automatic for me to put the entry into the address book.

Anything which helps when the unthinkable happens is good.
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Post  billyw Thu Apr 26 2012, 14:17

As for smelly/ damp cards (no offence to cards the member)- why not have it laminated?
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Post  SteveCat Thu Apr 26 2012, 14:44

billyw wrote:As for smelly/ damp cards (no offence to cards the member)

About sums him up [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] I knew if I waited long enough I'd be able to get my own back

billyw wrote:why not have it laminated?

Ah yes, maybe I ought to have added that - had told the paramedic on the FBOS course it would be an idea to mention lamination or other protection when handing out the packs.
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Post  westy Thu Apr 26 2012, 15:13

Never really crossed my mind Shocked
'ICE' in my phonebook now!

£20 for dog tags does seem a bit pricey. But if they are engraving them with contact number(s), blood type, med conditions etc. i'd pay that.

Iv'e always wondered how far paramedics trust something like this. Say, a set of dog tags with your blood type on it. Would they believe the tag and give you that type?
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Post  Snowcat Thu Apr 26 2012, 15:40

The paramedic actively looks for things like this in many walks of life and if you think about it if you're savvy enough to pay for and where them there is a certain assumption that you would go to the trouble of making sure the correct info is on there, stupid is what stupid does Wink
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Post  greencat Thu Apr 26 2012, 15:40

I have my home number under ICE in my phone. Everyone should do this.

Then when they phone up they can take the bollocking off the wife! green smile

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Post  0ldcat Thu Apr 26 2012, 15:40

Speaking of Cards (the member) . . . He has a set like these "ICE Tags". Got 'em as a prezzie 'e did. Not sure they're the same make but then 'e didn't pay for 'em wink thumb up
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Post  Mapman Thu Apr 26 2012, 15:44

westy wrote:
Iv'e always wondered how far paramedics trust something like this. Say, a set of dog tags with your blood type on it. Would they believe the tag and give you that type?

Land paramedics in ambulances wouldn't adminster blood at the scene as they don't carry any so that wouldn't happen, no. It's just really so they can give a heads-up to the hospital to they can have the right blood ready and save a few minutes.

There's a chopper in London that does carry now though, since last month...
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Post  Rampers Thu Apr 26 2012, 15:59

I've managed to get a USB dogtag so you could scan your driving licence and other documents plus all your details that you/they need
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Post  westy Thu Apr 26 2012, 16:08

Ahh i see, O-Neg is suitable for everyone regardless of your own blood type.

It would appear its also in some special land vehicles as well...
bbc news wrote:Blood will also now be carried by London's Air Ambulance's rapid response vehicles, which operate by day and at night when the helicopter cannot fly.

I'm digressing a lot though... Laughing
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Post  SteveCat Thu Apr 26 2012, 17:14

Rampers wrote:I've managed to get a USB dogtag so you could scan your driving licence and other documents plus all your details that you/they need

I asked the Paramedic about the USB versions, they will not read them on the scene partially because their laptops are all locked from having non NHS devices connected. However it might be used by the hospital.
Also the Paramedic said he had never seen one, so they might not look out for it - The tag you getting is engraved as well isn't it?

Sorry wasn't trying to scare you. We discussed this here some time back, and I had the opportunity to ask the front line so to speak when I did the First Biker on Scene course
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Post  Snowcat Thu Apr 26 2012, 17:18

Just checked on eBay, full of dog tags sold in pairs with 5 lines per tag which can be engraved with up to 15 characters per line (name, contact, blood type etc for £3.99 delivered!!

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[url=http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=140419707375&index=2&nav=SEARCH&nid=15141942643] :1:[/url]
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In the top of the two boxes in the drop-down paste the link url. In the botom box put : 1 : (without the spaces between the 1 & the : both sides)
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Post  Snowcat Thu Apr 26 2012, 17:35

Yeah need to learn how to do that!!
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Post  ellie Thu Apr 26 2012, 19:07

The hospital would cross match your own blood which only takes minutes or use o-neg which is universal.

Allergies are important.

It's just occurred to me I have my Mum & oldest daughter as ICE on my phone but it's pin-locked-Doh!!

Make sure your ICE is your next of kin too for consent etc.
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Post  Snowcat Thu Apr 26 2012, 19:17

Thanks Steve appreciate that Smile
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Post  SteveCat Thu Apr 26 2012, 20:02

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Post  Snowcat Thu Apr 26 2012, 20:06

Well thanks to whoever Smile
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Post  Rampers Thu Apr 26 2012, 20:08

Ha it is going to be engraved as well just incase they can't use the USB on scene but that is just the basic like name DOB nhs number and ice number but the USB will hold more info like allergies and some medical history as I know some records can misplaced (like my ones when transferring to a different dr) but thank you for your concern and I'll keep you updated when I get them.
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Post  kwakkat Thu Apr 26 2012, 20:18

mine are UTAG dogs tags plug into computer fill in details name addy next of kin blood type any disablitys meds etc etc reprogrammable £24,99 2 tags1 usb other normal dog tag to engrave if you want i never go out with out them
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Post  Wooster Thu Apr 26 2012, 21:31

I doubt I'd be willing to give many personal details away (and pay for the privilege) to some random on eBay for a set of dog tags.

My bike has a reg plate that the cops can check against a database in nanoseconds to see if it's taxed etc. so I'm pretty sure they'll be able to find out who I am without much effort. (if they can fine me, they can find me. green smile )

If I had any allergies that would kill me I'd use a standard Medalert bracelet.

p.s. I used to use an ICE contact, but they're no use on a smartphone that should be PIN protected...as Ellie mentioned.
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Post  ScoldedCat Thu Apr 26 2012, 21:36

I'd also question whether it's a good idea to have all your personal details and forms of identification (scans of your driving license) on an unencrypted easy to lose USB drive?

The chances of you losing this and having it used in fraud is much, much higher than it being required by medical professionals!
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Post  SteveCat Thu Apr 26 2012, 21:42

Had thought of that, but have the scans stored on my SatNav none the less.
Not expecting the authorities to go through it at a time when I can't give info though.
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