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Post  TomCom on Wed Oct 12 2016, 19:50

i was at the small bike shop and there was someone told my the O-ring chains are better.
i always use x-ring for thundercat but i didnt know there are O-ring chains.
I read wee bit about it but internet have lots of different opinions. what do you think about that?
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Post  SteveCat on Wed Oct 12 2016, 23:14

O-rings are the original form of the 'newer' types of chain, they are OK for smaller bikes. You are right in looking at X-ring.
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Post  TomCom on Thu Oct 13 2016, 17:58

but why x ring if o ring its some new type?
there is some Oring on ebay for thundercat. lots of forums say they good for 600cc.
i try to read about it but i dont understand what are benefited of x and o
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Post  Wooster on Thu Oct 13 2016, 18:13

Did you try Google Translate on this page?
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I have no idea how well it worked, but you might get the gist. Very Happy
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Post  TomCom on Thu Oct 13 2016, 18:16

Lol. Bad translation. But internet have loots of people that say differend things. I will just stay with x ring.
But now. What make? Is it have to be gold
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Post  Wooster on Thu Oct 13 2016, 18:54

I suspected it would be bad.. Laughing

Beyond that I can't advise mate, I always let the garage choose the chain and sprockets.
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Post  SteveCat on Thu Oct 13 2016, 19:33

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:but why x ring if o ring its some new type?

I'm sorry I confused you, o-ring chains have been around for 25+ years so it isn't new, x-ring chains are newer. Not to confuse you anymore only look for x-ring, you don't need a gold one, it's only painted anyway and doesn't mean it is better - unless you keep cleaning it, it will be black soon enough.

I used to buy from M&P, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is the cheapest chain kit they have, there are more expensive kits - what that means is they put in a better quality chain and sometimes better sprockets. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is the one I used to buy.
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Post  TomCom on Thu Oct 13 2016, 19:36

No o-ring, no gold need.
How do you know if it's better quality?
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Post  yamahamad on Thu Oct 13 2016, 20:18

Hi tom my first chain that came with the cat lasted me 24000 miles before it was stretching badly. I replaced it 2 years ago with the original fitment did chain & sunstar sprockets. If the replacements last the same then all well & good. I don't ride in the rain unless I'm caught out in it & do clean & lubricate the chain regularly so that helps maximise life.

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Post  Wooster on Thu Oct 13 2016, 20:41

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:No o-ring, no gold need.
How do you know if it's better quality?

You bite it.
If your teeth leave marks in it, it's poor quality. Smile
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Post  TomCom on Thu Oct 13 2016, 20:50

No o-ring, no gold need, no need super quality, just need to clean it Smile

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:... did chain & sunstar sprockets. ... clean & lubricate the chain regularly so that helps maximise life.
Paul
Thx poul, so no i think i dont need really good quality, just need to take care of it.
D.I.D will do,

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:No o-ring, no gold need.
How do you know if it's better quality?
You bite it.
If your teeth leave marks in it, it's poor quality. Smile

LOL i will try it next time
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Post  TomCom on Thu Oct 13 2016, 21:57

i have found this .
Xring D.I.D set, Gold Chain and Sprocket , Company : M&P
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I will wait till someone reply. is that good? its 85£
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Post  yamahamad on Fri Oct 14 2016, 08:03

That will be fine Tom, fairly good price too I believe. Are you getting someone to fit it or you having a go yourself? You will need a chain riveting tool if you are changing it!

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Post  TomCom on Fri Oct 14 2016, 08:15

I will try be myself.
If I can't get it (very possible) I will get someone to do it for me.
But I want to try myself first.
"chain riveting" some new thing again.
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Post  Rosco on Fri Oct 14 2016, 09:00

It is quite do-able just take your time, watch some videos and understand what you are doing before you dive in.
I would suggest using an angle grinder to grind down the pin head to make it easy to push out when removing the old chain as if you don't it is easy to break the push out pin on the chain tool.

From memory 430 chains are the heavy duty ones, 420 are "racing" ones because they are lighter (but don't last as long) and 425 are in the middle.

The sprockets and chain must match and if you are not sure but a "set" of chain and sprockets together.

If you can ride to me I'll help you do it.

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Post  TomCom on Fri Oct 14 2016, 09:18

Can't drive. Bike have no insurance and most.
I will take you advice.
Thx you all I get that set for 85£
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Post  terry lees on Fri Oct 14 2016, 19:05

Great advice for you there Tom, from one of Scotland's finest and most knowledgeable motor
cycle engineers.
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Post  TomCom on Fri Oct 14 2016, 20:14

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Great advice for you there Tom, from one of Scotland's finest and most knowledgeable motor
cycle engineers.
I don't get it. What advice?
You talking about Ross?
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Post  terry lees on Fri Oct 14 2016, 21:33

Sorry Tom please excuse me while I extricate my tongue from my cheek. (silly English humour)
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Post  Rosco on Fri Oct 14 2016, 23:12

Don't listen to Terry. He only opens his gob to take the piss out of me.

There does appear to be queue forming though.

Good luck Tom.

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Post  bobh on Fri Oct 14 2016, 23:24

Arguably Ross has contributed, more than any other member of this forum, to our understanding of the paramount necessity of maintaining the highest standards and carefully checking one's work when working on one's bike.

Or as an Irish mate of mine said, when asked why he did something twice, it's "To be sure, to be sure." Actually he's an aircraft maintenance specialist, so he was only half joking.
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Post  Rosco on Sat Oct 15 2016, 10:58

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Arguably Ross has contributed, more than any other member of this forum, to our understanding of the paramount necessity of maintaining the highest standards and carefully checking one's work when working on one's bike.

Or as an Irish mate of mine said, when asked why he did something twice, it's "To be sure, to be sure."  Actually he's an aircraft maintenance specialist, so he was only half joking.

Told you there was a queue Wink
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Post  TomCom on Sun Oct 16 2016, 18:13

Just to inform you all, i get Chain and sprockets and will be delivered to my tomorrow.
Thx for help ... geting there. i am off road for last 9 month
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Post  FatCat on Sun Oct 16 2016, 22:40

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Just to inform you all, i get Chain and sprockets and will be delivered to my tomorrow.
Thx for help ... geting there. i am off road for last 9 month

Good luck Tom.

Hopefully you were alright after the last crash.
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Post  TomCom on Sun Oct 16 2016, 23:00

Last crash? It was worst one. 6 month recovery and still my back not right. But I love bikes.
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