33bhp A2 Licence Question

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Re: 33bhp A2 Licence Question

Post  Ingyy on Wed Jul 09 2014, 11:36

ive just been on the phone to a yamaha dealer andthey are saying once i pass my a2 licence i have to ride something with 46 bhp? can i not ride anything with lower? /: as the only kit for tcat is 33bhp right? sorry if this is the wrong place i cant seem to find the right place still ggetting used to the forum, Thanks.
avatar
Ingyy
New Member
New Member

Male Number of posts : 3
Registration date : 2014-07-08


Back to top Go down

Re: 33bhp A2 Licence Question

Post  0ldcat on Wed Jul 09 2014, 12:04

No Probs with where you've posted Ingyy. It'll show up as a new post and people can look and help if needed. We can always move the thread/post (if need be), at a later stage.

Why not pop along to the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] section and say Hi. I'm sure you'll receive a warm welcome.

Cheers & Welcome  Thumb 
0ldcat (Tel)
avatar
0ldcat
founder

Male Number of posts : 5081
Hobbies : Motorcycling, Cooking, Rugby
Humour : It shrank in the wash
Registration date : 2008-11-05


http://www.yamaha-thundercats.org

Back to top Go down

Re: 33bhp A2 Licence Question

Post  weasley on Wed Jul 09 2014, 12:29

Find a new dealer. An A2 licence allows you to ride up to 35 kW (46 bhp). You can still ride a moped, or 125, or whatever, so long as it doesn't exceed the power and power-to-weight restrictions. You do have to take your test on a bike of at least 395cc and 20 kW minimum (27 bhp). Also your A2 bike, if restricted, must not be more than 70 kW when full power - here, the Thundercat may actually not be suitable.
avatar
weasley
Administrator
Administrator

Male Number of posts : 1445
Hobbies : Yes
Humour : Yes
Registration date : 2008-11-07


Back to top Go down

Re: 33bhp A2 Licence Question

Post  Ingyy on Wed Jul 09 2014, 12:31

tcat is not allowed unfortunately :(
avatar
Ingyy
New Member
New Member

Male Number of posts : 3
Registration date : 2014-07-08


Back to top Go down

33bhp A2 Licence Question

Post  0ldcat on Wed Jul 09 2014, 12:57

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:tcat is not allowed unfortunately :(
Maybe not to take the test, but once you have an A2 licence, ~ with a 33bhp restrictor kit fitted, does the Cat not then fit into the category of bikes you can ride ?
avatar
0ldcat
founder

Male Number of posts : 5081
Hobbies : Motorcycling, Cooking, Rugby
Humour : It shrank in the wash
Registration date : 2008-11-05


http://www.yamaha-thundercats.org

Back to top Go down

Re: 33bhp A2 Licence Question

Post  0ldcat on Wed Jul 09 2014, 13:10

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:no because the power to weight ratio is still higher then it should be
Then it looks like you'll have to wait a bit for your Cat.  sad 
avatar
0ldcat
founder

Male Number of posts : 5081
Hobbies : Motorcycling, Cooking, Rugby
Humour : It shrank in the wash
Registration date : 2008-11-05


http://www.yamaha-thundercats.org

Back to top Go down

Re: 33bhp A2 Licence Question

Post  ellie on Thu Jul 10 2014, 07:07

No cats can no longer be restricted which is a pity as mine was great restricted.
avatar
ellie
Administrator
Administrator

Female Number of posts : 4336
Registration date : 2009-01-27


http://ellencallaby@nhs.net

Back to top Go down

Re: 33bhp A2 Licence Question

Post  weasley on Thu Jul 10 2014, 07:28

The old fashioned restricted licence, which Ellie had, was 33 bhp maximum and any bike could be restricted.

The new fangled A2 licence is 45 bhp maximum but the bike must not be restricted from a bike that is more than 90 bhp when full-power. I think official numbers for the Cat put it just over this limit.
avatar
weasley
Administrator
Administrator

Male Number of posts : 1445
Hobbies : Yes
Humour : Yes
Registration date : 2008-11-07


Back to top Go down

Re: 33bhp A2 Licence Question

Post  0ldcat on Thu Jul 10 2014, 10:49

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:The old fashioned restricted licence, which Ellie had, was 33 bhp maximum and any bike could be restricted.

The new fangled A2 licence is 45 bhp maximum but the bike must not be restricted from a bike that is more than 90 bhp when full-power.  I think official numbers for the Cat put it just over this limit.
Hmm, it does indeedy 96bhp officially (despite owners & jurno's thinking/quoting 100bhp), which coincidentally is the same as a CBF1000 (06-09), non of which is any use to Ingyy sadly   sad
avatar
0ldcat
founder

Male Number of posts : 5081
Hobbies : Motorcycling, Cooking, Rugby
Humour : It shrank in the wash
Registration date : 2008-11-05


http://www.yamaha-thundercats.org

Back to top Go down

Re: 33bhp A2 Licence Question

Post  Rosco on Thu Jul 10 2014, 11:03

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:No cats can no longer be restricted which is a pity as mine was great restricted.

That is what I thought when I was following you on a rideout.
I thought you were talking porkies about the restriction.
avatar
Rosco
Administrator
Administrator

Male Number of posts : 6378
Humour : Oh Go On Then
Registration date : 2008-11-06


Back to top Go down

Re: 33bhp A2 Licence Question

Post  OhJay on Thu Jul 10 2014, 15:20

Restricting to 33 is even worse from what I can work out, the actual wording is "The motorbike must also not be derived from a vehicle of more than double its power." [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] so does that suggest if restricting to 33bhp it can't have started with more than 66?

I think it's also done on engine power rather than "at the back wheel" power, I've had the same argument about the SRAD GSXR 600 which is mostly quoted low enough to be acceptable.

To answer the original question, you don't HAVE to ride 47 bhp, you can ride smaller if you want, but Thundercat isn't on the list.
avatar
OhJay
2Silver
2Silver

Male Number of posts : 170
Registration date : 2013-06-20


Back to top Go down

Re: 33bhp A2 Licence Question

Post  0ldcat on Thu Jul 10 2014, 19:36

Here is the DfT A2 licence acceptable list [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Looks like this puppy (XJ6-n - restricted) is on there
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
avatar
0ldcat
founder

Male Number of posts : 5081
Hobbies : Motorcycling, Cooking, Rugby
Humour : It shrank in the wash
Registration date : 2008-11-05


http://www.yamaha-thundercats.org

Back to top Go down

Re: 33bhp A2 Licence Question

Post  weasley on Thu Jul 10 2014, 20:25

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Restricting to 33 is even worse from what I can work out, the actual wording is "The motorbike must also not be derived from a vehicle of more than double its power." [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] so does that suggest if restricting to 33bhp it can't have started with more than 66?

I think it's also done on engine power rather than "at the back wheel" power, I've had the same argument about the SRAD GSXR 600 which is mostly quoted low enough to be acceptable.

To answer the original question, you don't HAVE to ride 47 bhp, you can ride smaller if you want, but Thundercat isn't on the list.

I think you have kW and bhp mixed up. The old 'A2' restricted licence (which was a 2 year restriction) was 25 kW or about 33 bhp; there're was no limit on what bike you could restrict. The current A2 licence limits you to 35 kW, about 46 bhp, and the bike can not be restricted from anything with more than 70 kW (about 93 bhp) as standard.
avatar
weasley
Administrator
Administrator

Male Number of posts : 1445
Hobbies : Yes
Humour : Yes
Registration date : 2008-11-07


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum