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Post  mosamahab Fri Oct 11 2013, 16:58

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Hey, this is OB from manchester. Just bought a thundercat after successfully completing the DAS. 2001 10k miles.

Been riding it for a month. I am getting bad fuel economy 120m till the light comes on. Ive also recived two different information about how much the tank holds. Does the tank hold 19ltrs plus reserve of 3.1 making the total capacity 22.1 ltrs. Or does the tank hold 19ltrs minus 3.1 ltrs reserve making it 15.9 ltrs. Someone also suggested that something might be up with the carbs ?

Secondly I have been having trouble downshifting, it is sticky. Sometimes I cant shift down untill i let the clutch out a little and then I hear clunks. Not at smooth as it is upshifting.

I have been on the YZF forums and they reckon it is a bent shift shaft. Have a look at this, I made this yesterday to make it a little clear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XmZUrd3758

Anyone have any advice on this ?
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Post  mrfrance Mon Oct 14 2013, 16:30

Sorry I wrote the above on my phone so was a bit blunt...

You shouldn't need earplugs at such a low speed, even with an aftermarket can. Yellow downpipes would indicate the possibility of corrosion I believe they would also be original which are alluminium if I'm not mistaken.

I would check the bottom of the bike as the pipes are exposed and are subject to stone chippings, if it's noisy it could mean you have holes in them! I had this problem with my current bike which as Snowcat pointed out can lead to fuel problems and can aid with knocking your carbs out of sync (something to do pressure).

Worth taking the pipes off if you get a chance for a proper inspection as holes can appear in the most unlikely of places.

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Post  mosamahab Mon Oct 14 2013, 17:05

Once I get the fairings off I will have a look at everything properly.

I dont know I have sensitive ears, or my helmet has very bad noise protection. Plus my visor is always open because I wear glasses and they steam up. I am thinking of getting contacts for that reason.

I posted a video earlier in the thread. Should be able to tell if it is noisy, or not. I'll have a look at everything when I get the parts delivered and the rain stops so i can take everything off.
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Post  mrfrance Mon Oct 14 2013, 17:56

Just watched the vid... the sound makes me cringe lol sorry.

Definitely a missfire going on there but I'm also convinced it's blowing somewhere as the cat is pretty quiet as standard.

Let us know how you get on
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Post  Tee-Forty Tue Oct 15 2013, 04:00

mosamahab wrote:...Oh, and it also says apply oil to the air filter. Whats that all about ?
The dirt particles stick to the oil as they try to get through the filter. The filter only needs to be damp with oil, not dripping.
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Post  mosamahab Tue Oct 15 2013, 15:53

looks like I'll be doing a lot more repairs. I had a crash this morning. car pulled out, had to brake and swerve. lost the back wheel. pictures to follow later when I get home.
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Post  mrfrance Tue Oct 15 2013, 16:02

Oh bloody hell! Sorry to hear this mate, you certainly haven't had much luck with this bike.

Important thing is that you are ok?! Is the car driver not liable? In which case you should technically have no repairs to do? (At least not out of your pocket).

I hope everything works out for you, you must be due a big win or something soon, get that lottery ticket in!
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Post  prime Tue Oct 15 2013, 16:13

ah shit. sorry to hear of your off mate, don't let it put you off though. get back on the horse asap
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Post  mosamahab Tue Oct 15 2013, 16:31

I'm alright have just spent the past three hours at Wythenshawe hospital. only whip lash, so I'm good. the car switched drivers because the guy who was driving had no license or insurance. very hostile, according to them I just fell and they are not at fault. nobody stopped to help or provide witness, such is today's society. so my word against them according the police. plus they weren't even going to register it as an rtc. I'm not too sure what happens next.
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Post  mosamahab Tue Oct 15 2013, 17:55

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Also Gear shifter is bent. :(

So how bad is it ?
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Post  mosamahab Tue Oct 15 2013, 18:02

Long story short, Car pulled out, had to break and swerve. Lost the back end.

The driver tried to take off so I get up and see them change seats. Apparently the driver does not have a license or insurance. The women next to him says she was driving and I am a liar and stupid because I fell of my bike in front of her car. According to her I should have gone around their car. No witnesses, my word against hers becuase nobody stopped to help.

Called the police they didnt want to register it as an RTC because I did not collide with the car. In hindsight should have done that. But eventually they came around and gave a case number. They say they cant do much because its their word against my own and even though they switched drivers and all the Bollards that women was spouting there is no way to confirm this.

Was fine till the adrenaline wear off then had to go to the hospital to get checked out. Minor injuries, headache and numbness so I should be fine.

Now I have a messed up bike and they are refusing to take the blame that they pulled out in the middle of the road. How do I go sorting this stuff out.
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Post  SteveCat Tue Oct 15 2013, 18:55

Ouch mate, that looks nasty. You looking to fix yourself or go via your insurance? Did you exchange details or at least get the car reg etc? Sorry I have no idea how you go from here.
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Post  prime Tue Oct 15 2013, 19:09


do you not have their details mate? a midnight visit would be in order if it was me, their car would be in a worse state than the bike
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Post  mrfrance Tue Oct 15 2013, 19:15

I'm gutted for you mate, that makes me feel sick and angry!

It sounds like there isn't a lot you can do though in terms of insurance unless you make the claim on your own (if you're fully comp) otherwise it looks like a manual repair. Alternator covers are quite hard to find however there are some carbon ones available which are reasonably priced and look better (I'll try and dig out the link).

Do you think you will be able to bend the shifter back? If not I'm sure you could pick one up at a reasonable price on ebay, have a look for people breaking their cat for spares. As for the indicator, this could be an opportunity to replace all four for an aftermarket set. You can pick up some nice looking non LED (You will need a relay if you get LED) really cheap Click here.

The rest is cosmetic which I am sure will bother you but won't stop you riding the bike in the meantime, there are cheaper alternatives to spraying like vinyl wrapping but you could also check some companies who do SMART repairs which are meant to be cheaper than taking your bike to a bodyshop but depends on how bad the damage is...

There are some folks on here who are experts in the spraying area who might be able to give an idea of cost but don't quote me on that.

Hope this helps
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Post  mrfrance Tue Oct 15 2013, 19:19

Sorry just noticed the chunks of plastic missing... there are cheap chinese fairings available with a variety of paint jobs available. A few people have got them on here and they seem to work well... alternatively you could always keep and eye out for spare fairings on ebay.
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Post  mosamahab Tue Oct 15 2013, 19:26

I have contacted my insurance and they said they will contact that woman's insurance company and see how it goes. I am potentially screwed in this situation because if I claim of her insurance apparently it does effect my renewal price in the future.

If I dont get anything out of this and have to do the repairs out of my own pocket then I will be nice and not do anything to their car Wink 
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Post  Tee-Forty Wed Oct 16 2013, 01:59

mosamahab wrote:Long story short, Car pulled out, had to break and swerve. Lost the back end.

...Now I have a messed up bike and they are refusing to take the blame that they pulled out in the middle of the road. How do I go sorting this stuff out.
Go back to the scene of the accident as soon as possible and see how many CCTV cameras you can find. We're one of the most watched nations in the world, so you have a good chance that the accident was recorded by someone, either privately or by local council installed traffic cameras.

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Post  0ldcat Wed Oct 16 2013, 02:28

Tee-Forty wrote:
mosamahab wrote:Long story short, Car pulled out, had to break and swerve. Lost the back end.

...Now I have a messed up bike and they are refusing to take the blame that they pulled out in the middle of the road. How do I go sorting this stuff out.
Go back to the scene of the accident as soon as possible and see how many CCTV cameras you can find. We're one of the most watched nations in the world, so you have a good chance that the accident was recorded by someone, either privately or by local council installed traffic cameras.

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Sorry to hear of your off and whiplash . . . bike looks nasty, but repairable.
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Post  Rosco Wed Oct 16 2013, 11:34

Gutted for you.

Hope you and the bike mend well and this doesn't put you off.
Good luck.

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Post  mosamahab Wed Oct 16 2013, 16:15

i will get back on the bike. I am waiting for the insurance engineer to come assess the damage. Then I start repairing the bike and get back riding. These claim thingy takes ages apparently, but I need the bike back by the 29th. So I wiill try repair it myself.
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Post  thunderstu600 Wed Oct 16 2013, 19:18

Hey OB. Sorry to here of the off m8.
Pm me if you need some parts. My donor bike didn't sell on fleabay and it's silver n black so breaking it now. Whatever you need ill try and take some decent photos for you. I haven't got main side fairings though
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P.s i haven't had a reply back from a forum member about the nose cone yet so ill message him if hes still wants it n let you know if it's available
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Post  mosamahab Tue Nov 12 2013, 17:58

Back on the bike fellows.

New indicators. tiny arrow ones.
Changed generator cover. It was a pain, the screws inside are made of butter.
Changed the gear selector as the previous one could not be bent back.
Changed spark plugs. Took ages to do them, so little space to work with.
Air filter was pretty good, just very dry so damped it up with oil. I think it should be okay.
soldered the fairings back together, will paint in the summer.
Cleaned the sprocket, crud from the bottom clutch and adjusted it. Shifts better now.
Fitted crash bungs and dropped it already this morning trying to mess about with the tank. lol. fortunately, no harm done.
Carb synced, using a two bottle diy manometer. first 1.2 then 3.4 then 2.3

Took it for a ride, seems okay. One thing I did notice though; it climbs the rev meter very quickly now, little twist and revs very high. Dont know if it is bad clutch adjustment I did or it genuinely is supposed to be like that.

Someone also said in this thread that if there is vibration in the footpegs and the handlebars then the carbs need balancing. Well after the balance the vibration is still there.
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