Re: Bring Motorcycle road tax in line with that of cars.

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Re: Bring Motorcycle road tax in line with that of cars.

Post  furball on Wed Jul 24 2013, 17:03

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Post  SteveCat on Wed Jul 24 2013, 17:20

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Re: Re: Bring Motorcycle road tax in line with that of cars.

Post  mechy69 on Wed Jul 24 2013, 17:36

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Re: Re: Bring Motorcycle road tax in line with that of cars.

Post  Bikerchris on Wed Jul 24 2013, 17:44

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Re: Re: Bring Motorcycle road tax in line with that of cars.

Post  Wooster on Wed Jul 24 2013, 17:56

I think it's more complicated than that tbh and owners of older bikes could end up paying an absolute fortune if the tax was based on emissions.


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..is from a US EPA report in 2003 that highlights the fact that bikes were among the most polluting vehicles on the road at the time.
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iirc the YZF600R was discontinued in 2005 in order to meet the Euro 2 standards and top enders like BMW are already moving into the Euro 4 standard and Euro 5 in 2015.
So that modern classic you have could end up costing you a fair percentage of it's total worth every year if the tax ends up being based on average emissions.


-edit- Those are GWB era figures, so might not be worth the paper their written on. Other articles I've seen put bikes on a par with cars.
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Re: Re: Bring Motorcycle road tax in line with that of cars.

Post  WGL2013 on Thu Jul 25 2013, 14:27

From the petition: "So a Toyota Aygo or Citreon C1, a tax class B car, pays just £20 a year, producing 139gm of Co2...

....but a Honda VFR making just 16.5g of CO2, pays £78 a year, nearly 4 times as much."

I suspect the figure for the VFR is incorrect, wouldn't that mean it gave something like 500mpg? I may be wrong Smile Smile Smile Smile
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Re: Re: Bring Motorcycle road tax in line with that of cars.

Post  Wooster on Thu Jul 25 2013, 15:11

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..apparently the VFR800 and FJR1300 figures are 158g/Km and 152g/Km respectively under Euro3 standards (measured in 2009)
Meaning both bikes would attract a duty of £175 a year, as opposed to £78 (at this years rates).


pity there isn't a way for people to unsign.. Laughing


Also mentioned in the article is how difficult it is to find the figures from the manufacturers (which I've found myself).
Newer bikes from the likes of BMW seem to take a bit of pride in the fact that they're reducing them, so they do publish, but other companies are keeping pretty schtum.
From a quick hunt around looking at the figures for the larger Ducati's, they appear to be in the region of 200g/Km, so that'd be about £260 - £280 a year in tax. Shocked
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Re: Re: Bring Motorcycle road tax in line with that of cars.

Post  stretchie_ on Thu Jul 25 2013, 16:34

I'm not convinced this is a good step for us
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Re: Re: Bring Motorcycle road tax in line with that of cars.

Post  Wooster on Thu Jul 25 2013, 17:34

Start a petition not to bring them into line....go on, you know it makes sense. Very Happy
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Re: Re: Bring Motorcycle road tax in line with that of cars.

Post  ellie on Thu Jul 25 2013, 23:22

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Totally agree, I'm not sure this is such a good idea!
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Re: Re: Bring Motorcycle road tax in line with that of cars.

Post  Rosco on Fri Jul 26 2013, 00:23

Hmm interesting stuff.
Might be better the devil you know.
Not signed it just in case there is a chance it'll cost me more.
I hate spending money.

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